Creating Balance and Positive Nutrition with the Everyday Snack Tray
Creating Balance and Positive Nutrition with the Everyday Snack Tray

"What we’re finding now is we just have generations of people who feel badly about eating and are almost frozen in their decision-making." 

- Frances Largeman-Roth

It’s all about the snacks this week as Elizabeth welcomes Registered Dietitian and Nutrition Expert Frances Largeman Roth. Frances shares her journey from studying animal science to becoming a best-selling author and nationally recognized wellness expert, appearing on shows including “The Today Show,” “Dr. Oz,” “Good Morning America” and CNN. In her chat with Elizabeth, Frances discusses her philosophy of “positive nutrition,” emphasizing balance and flexibility over strict restrictions. She shares about her new book "Everyday Snack Tray" and the importance of exposing kids to a variety of foods. She talks about some of the challenges of eating healthy and tips to overcome them, as well as the importance of balance in diet and lifestyle, including finding joy in daily routines. Frances also shares some of her food predictions for 2024. Tune in to hear valuable insights on nutrition and wellness from Frances, including more on her positive nutrition philosophy.



    Elizabeth Stein 0:00
    Hi, everyone. I'm Elizabeth Stein, founder, and CEO of Purely Elizabeth. And this is Live Purely with Elizabeth, featuring candid conversations about how to thrive on your wellness journey.

    This week's guest is Frances Largeman-Roth, a registered dietitian and New York Times best-selling author, and nationally recognized nutrition and wellness expert. Frances is the author of Feed the Belly, Eating and Color, and Everyday Snack Tray which was just released. She is a contributor to several publications including and Shape, and she has appeared on numerous national TV shows, including The Today Show, Dr. Oz, Good Morning America, and CNN. In this episode, we talk about Frances' philosophy of positive nutrition, emphasizing balance and flexibility rather than strict dietary restrictions. She shares about her new book Everyday Snack Tray and the importance of creativity and exposing kids to a variety of foods. We talk about some of the challenges when it comes to eating healthy, along with tips to overcome them the importance of maintaining a balanced diet and lifestyle, including finding joy in daily routines, and some of her food predictions for 2024. Keep listening to learn more.

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    Frances, welcome to the podcast. It's such a pleasure to finally connect with you and hear all about your background and story.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 2:41
    Oh, Elizabeth, thank you so much. It's a pleasure to be here with you. I have known you and all of your products since you launched back in 2009. I have written about them many, many times. So it's a joy to be here today and connect with you.

    Elizabeth Stein 2:59
    Wonderful. So let's start with what interested you in getting into nutrition and wellness. And have you always been in this field?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 3:09
    Yes and no. So I was going to go to vet school, I did a full four-year undergrad in animal science. And from the age of five as a little girl, I was so passionate about animals and took care of them. But life does do things and sends you down certain paths. My father died of a heart attack when I was 12. Sort of that in the back of my mind. As I was learning about science and getting my undergrad, I started getting fascinated with the animal nutrition classes that I was taking. And I kind of realized I was like, yeah, that would be amazing to be an animal nutritionist. But there are probably five jobs, maybe 10 jobs. It would be so cool at the zoos and so I realized you know what, people are starting to get more interested in nutrition and how what goes into their body affects them, affects the way they feel, their long-term health, performance, all that stuff. So I switched gears and changed my undergrad, stayed an extra year, and then went on to do my dietetic internship. But I will say that in high school, I worked at a health food store.

    Elizabeth Stein 4:39
    Where did you grow up?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 4:40
    I grew up in western New York, south of Buffalo in a small town called Salamanca, which is actually on a Native American reservation. So a very interesting place to grow up. But that is what led me to do what I do, but I also knew I wanted to write. I was always really interested in writing and I have been very, very lucky to be able to bring those two worlds together.

    Elizabeth Stein 5:10
    When you first graduated, and years after that starting your career, what did that look like as far as working with clients versus how did you get into writing and really, that side of your work today?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 5:21
    Yeah, well, I was working in a clinic in San Francisco, and this was about 1998. And the AIDS epidemic was still rearing its ugly head, and I was at a clinic where we specifically addressed that patient population. So it was my very first job as a dietitian, and it was very intense because our patients had so many different health issues going on all at once. But it was also wonderful because it was a holistic health practice. So we had MDS on staff, we had a massage therapist, an acupuncturist, a Watsu therapist, a psychiatrist, and me, so our patients were getting a very balanced and great treatment plan. And it was a very cool place to work. My only writing there was the patient handouts that I created for my patients. So breakdowns on how to choose an energy bar, how much protein you need, and fiber and stuff like that. But I tried because of my patient population, I created them with a little humor in mind as well. So when I did apply to writing jobs, I said I don't have any clips. That's what you're supposed to send, you're supposed to send your writing clips. But I had these patient handouts. That's what I sent. And amazingly Discovery Health, who they were just launching at the time hired me as a writer. So they always say to be very prepared when you apply to jobs, but sometimes you have to just dive in and have a little bit of hope.

    Elizabeth Stein 7:10
    Absolutely. So as you think about the work that you do today, how do you describe what your nutrition philosophy is? Because there are certainly so many different ways that there are a million different dietary theories.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 7:24
    Oh, you're right. Yes, absolutely. I describe it as positive nutrition for your whole life—meaning, from pre-pregnancy on through menopause. I do focus on women and women's health. And it's a journey. And I would say that women in their 20s are very confused and have always been bombarded by different diets, fad diets, trends, pressures from the media, etc. And that has not changed. It's only gotten worse with social media. So certainly for me, it was fat-free. That was what I glommed on and a million bagels a day. No fat. Balance is another word that I use a lot, finding that balance between how we take care of ourselves every day. But how do we also enjoy life? how do you travel and feel good about yourself and still be able to go out and enjoy the things that you want to fully enjoy life without having to cut out whole food groups, unless you need to, for a dietary reason? Also, to find movement that you enjoy, that gives you energy, doesn't make you feel more exhausted at the end of the day. And I think every decade, even maybe every five years, that changes a little bit. And what we need to do to take care of ourselves has to get tweaked a little bit because our bodies change, our home hormone levels change, and our lifestyle changes. So I think it's good to have an open mind.

    Elizabeth Stein 9:17
    Yeah, I love that philosophy. I'm all about, I call it, the 80-20 rule, but I don't know that it's 80-20 It's just having that balance and feeling like you can indulge guilt-free when you want to and you're doing something, and eating great the rest of the time.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 9:34
    Yeah, absolutely. And so I think that's what I try to get across in the work that I do. And also in my new book, Everyday Snack Tray.

    Elizabeth Stein 9:44
    Yes. So congratulations on the new book. Tell us about the inspiration behind that.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 9:50
    Thank you. So the inspiration. Here's the book. I don't know if we sent you one, Elizabeth.

    Elizabeth Stein 9:53
    Yes, I love it. It’s on my coffee table.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 10:00
    Fantastic. Thank you. When my kids were little, they just as with most young kids, they just didn't eat a lot of anything. So you put out the food, and tiny little bits were eaten. And then I was left with all these leftovers, veggies and protein and pasta, whatnot. So I would save it in little containers. And what I realized was that if I put the food out in little ramekins, my kids were more likely to eat it to try new things even than if I plated their food. So that sort of morphed into making snack trays and sort of purposefully doing things that weigh in little ramekins or on little plates, and bite-sized pieces of food. And then my kids started asking me, “Hey, my friends are coming over, can you make a snack tray?” Or, “Mom, I'd like a snack tray for my birthday.” And I started getting sort of more playful with it doing themes. And lo and behold, it turned into a book idea. But I think at the same time, the whole charcuterie tray trend took off. So people just got more interested in serving things this way. Also, millennials and Gen Z are not that interested in doing a full-course meal. They don't have time, they don't have the interest and maybe not even the knowledge to put together an elaborate meal, let's say, and so I think this sort of way of eating is more carefree. It's less work. It's more creative. It plays into visuals, which we know that the younger generations are interested in, and it's a creative outlet for me.

    Elizabeth Stein 11:55
    So how do you think about what goes on with those boards and those combinations from a nutrition standpoint?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 12:04
    From a nutrition standpoint, there's always going to be a fruit, and there's always going to be a vegetable, although maybe on the Barbie snack tray that I made, there was watermelon for the pink. I don't think that there was a vegetable, but certainly, I tried to bring balance into it and seasonality. And some trays are truly meant to be just snacks, something to eat when you're watching your movie, or something to eat maybe before the main entree comes out. But some of them are truly meant to be a meal so you can do it a taco tray, you can do a chili tray for the winter, that's fun. Or just go to… I'm so excited, it's almost spring, and the farmers market is finally going to be back up and running here. And that's where I find so much inspiration in terms of recipe development. But you can just go to the farmers market and pick up a nice cheese and a great baguette and all the seasonal produce and arrange it on a board with the really good olive oil, extra virgin olive oil and that can be a meal. So I'm just showing people different ways to get together and celebrate with the people who live in your home, but also as a way to get people because we know people are not hanging out as much since the pandemic. And it hasn't even really backed up again. I don't know what the statistic is, but we're just not socializing as much anymore. And so, to me, a barrier was oh my gosh, I have to clean the house, put all the toys away, then cook, then set the table, and do all these things. So if I can think of this more as like, hey, I'm just walking out with some nice food on a tray and enjoying it with people then that barrier becomes much less and I'm more likely to invite people over.

    Elizabeth Stein 14:14
    I love that. It's all about making it fun and easy. And those are certainly great inspirations, whether you're trying to eat healthier, or in the case of your kids where you're trying to introduce them to eating foods that they're not normally eating and getting them to encourage that trial. As you mentioned the genesis was with your kids, what are some other ways that you can suggest encouraging healthy eating for kids?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 14:42
    Yeah, well, I think for too long diet culture has been trickling down to kids and parents. Unfortunately, it's a lot of the moms doing it, but I'm sure that the dads and the grandmas and the aunties have all been guilty of it as well. Categorizing foods as good and bad, because what we're finding now is we just have generations of people who feel badly about eating and are almost frozen in their decision-making, because they've heard for years that carbs are bad or fat is bad, or whatever it is. Something tasty is bad, right? Which we don't want. So I feel like snack trays are a way to equalize food and take that stigma of, oh, I'm putting the bad stuff, the naughty stuff over here. And the good stuff is over here. It's just all on the tray. And I think that sometimes is a concept that people go really? I can put a cheese puff on a tray at the same time I can put carrots on a tray. Absolutely, yes, you can. And the more that kids are exposed to foods that they're unfamiliar with, or that they think that they don't like, the more likely they are to try it eventually. It can take 20 to 20 exposures for a child to even try a food. And then that doesn't even mean that they're going to like it, they're just exposed to it. And they're going to try it. So for me, it's all about here are all your options. Not putting anything on the no list unless somebody has an allergy. And obviously, that's something that we need to be aware of. But also you can give control to your kid, whether your kid is 3 or 13. And you can say, well, what do you want to pick? Let's go to the store and you pick something out, or let's pick a blue food, or let's pick a purple food, or using different techniques like that to get them more interested in the food that they're eating. Because kids can be very picky, and also grownups can be very picky. So for me, it's all about variety. We also know that for the gut microbiome, variety is best. If you're only eating a select 10 foods, that's not going to be great for the diversity of your gut. So there are so many reasons to be open to trying new foods.

    Elizabeth Stein 17:29
    Yeah, that's such a great point. So as you think about we're sitting here in March, it is National Nutrition Month. And at the same time, we are a country that's very not well, we have 12%, I think is the latest statistic of the population that is metabolically healthy, with the rest of us not. And so, as you first mentioned there's so much conflicting information and confusion, like where have we gone wrong? And how do we navigate all of the noise to figure out and make informed decisions about our diets?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 18:10
    There's a lot of noise. Absolutely. I think, unfortunately, there's so much misinformation on social media. And that is so hard for a consumer to sift through. I really can't imagine getting bombarded with these different concepts and truly not knowing what is right and what is wrong or what is made up. So I think if you have serious questions, and maybe some different health issues going on, do see a registered dietician. You can find us we are out there. If you go to, you can find a laundry list of us all across the country, but see a professional because just because you're a social media darling does not make you a nutrition expert, and also reading labels. We know that this is important, it's a great skill to have to understand. It's not just the nutrition facts panel, but it's also the ingredient list. We know that the ingredient list is important. It sort of depends on what product it is that you're looking for. But certainly, we don't want a product that starts with sugar as the first ingredient depending on what it is. Maybe we want to wholegrain as the first ingredient. So there's a lot that a consumer can do to get informed. Also when you're looking for information, go to the source material. I know that sometimes these things take a little more time than we'd like. But if something seems outrageous, it probably is. If you see videos of somebody walking down grocery aisles telling you that absolutely every packaged food is terrible, that's a red flag. Because we know that not all packaged foods are bad, and they provide a certain amount of convenience in our day, I know that I topped my morning smoothie with your new cookie granola this morning, and it came out of a package. And there's nothing wrong with that. So it's about ingredients. It's about understanding. It's also understanding what makes you feel good, because it's all so personalized, right?

    Elizabeth Stein 20:31
    Yeah. There's no one-size-fits-all diet for everyone. That's for sure. So in your experience, as we think about the health issues that we have in our country, where do you see some of the biggest challenges that people face when trying to make healthier food choices? Certainly, we might know, but yet, we're still not necessarily taking those actions to eat healthier.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 20:56
    Yeah, I think it comes down for many people to time and cost. And right now, cost is just a big stressor for people. We know that grocery costs went sky high, and even though they are starting to calm down a little bit, they're still inflated. So people are choosing to shop at more budget-friendly stores like Aldi and Trader Joe's. And so that's why you see a lot of people like me, guiding how to shop well, at stores like that.

    Elizabeth Stein 21:32
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    So give us your tips for shopping well at Trader Joe's.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 22:21
    Oh, okay. Well, I was just there. So I mean, certainly you're going to you're going to shop at like you do are similar to how you shop at a regular grocery store. I go to the produce section first. And I look at their bagged salad because that's quick and easy to make. I get their chopped kale, which I just threw into a salad last time. They had such good produce. They have shredded Brussels sprouts at this time of year. So they do have a lot of things that are made convenient. They have to pick something that's already sliced up or diced up something, one of the two. So I look for those types of things. And of course, you know bags of Mandarin bananas, they have great apples. And their berries section is always much cheaper. They do have organic as well as conventional in their berries sections. So lots of great pics in their produce aisle. And they also have great options for dairy, too, if you're a dairy person. Then I do go through the frozen because I have three kids and two of them are teens who are cooking their food sometimes. And they have a beautiful tri-color cauliflower. That's just cut-up cauliflower and you can roast it, you can stir fry it, you can microwave it however you want to make it and it's beautiful. It's purple and green and whites, cauliflowers so you do have to look through some of the options that do have higher sodium. So if that's a concern for you, you do want to, of course, look and see how much sodium the item has per serving. But they have bags of chia, they have great rolled oats, and they have lots of great basic ingredients that are so much cheaper than going to another natural food store that I love. But that just generally has higher prices unless you're buying the store brand.

    Elizabeth Stein 24:38
    Yeah, great. So for someone who is on this health journey, there's certainly again overwhelming amount of information for things that you can do for optimal health to live a healthier lifestyle. What would you say would be sort of your top three tips for someone looking to improve their diet and lifestyle?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 25:00
    None of us are getting enough fruits and vegetables. Maybe 10% of us.

    Elizabeth Stein 25:07
    How much should we be getting?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 25:07
    5-7 servings a day, which, if you saw it in front of you would not be that overwhelming. It's just that it's a cost thing and a time thing again, it's those two barriers. So having it at the ready whether you're taking a little bit of time on Sunday afternoon to wash berries and put them in containers, or cut-ups and celery sticks or whatever it is that you like, I never tried to force if you tell me. I'm never going to eat kale, I hate kale. I'm not going to try to convince you, Elizabeth, that you should love it. And of course again, like, hey, maybe it's time to try something new. Maybe you didn't think you loved asparagus, but asparagus is coming into season. So let's try it again. And maybe we should try it grilled. Maybe you'll you know like it more this time. But with a little bit of effort in prep, you do not have to meal prep for the whole week. I think that that is not a realistic thing to do. But a little bit of stuff. I love doing overnight oats. That's just a quick and easy thing to grab. But we're talking about produce. So little bit of prep with that. Also just having it around having the apples and bowls ready to go or the grapes already washed ready to go. So think about it in terms of adding more color to your day, throughout the day is great.

    Elizabeth Stein 26:40
    A great tip that someone also shared while you're talking about that is we're so used to putting all that produce perhaps in your fridge, it's in the bottom, you don't even see it in that drawer. And what you're usually drawn to eating is what you see. So sometimes putting it you see all these beautiful Instagram fridges, and while they just look aesthetically pleasing and beautiful, there is a purpose I think, too, because you're seeing the fruits, you're seeing the vegetables, and that's drawing you to eat the better for you produce instead of maybe going after a chip instead.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 27:15
    Absolutely, yes, keep it where you can see it. And I love using glass containers for that reason. Because then you can see it you don't forget about it, it's not hidden in the drawer. So I love that. That's a great point. And then finding some kind of movement that works for you that fits into your day. It doesn't have to be at the gym. I haven't belonged to a gym in years. I have a Peloton bike, I use the app all the time, it's in these great little bite-sized periods. So 20 minutes of strength, and five minutes of ABS, if that's what I can fit in today, that's great. But finding something that you are going to want to do on most days. And as we get older, our bodies just actually need to move more to feel good. So carving that out, also including time to stretch because if you don't dread, you're gonna hurt, the muscles are gonna get tight, they're gonna get shorter, and you're also more prone to injury. So kind of baking in that time for stretching, I think is hugely important. And then the third tip would be fun. The world is so heavy right now I think with the election, with different wars going on, the economy, lots of things to stress about, find something that makes you feel great. Whether that is a hobby that you're doing or just some kind of craft that you're doing with your hands. Maybe it is watching a funny show with the people you love. Maybe it's journaling, something that lights you up, that helps to lower your stress because you can check all the boxes, you can eat the kale and the chia and everything and still not be in a great place because your stress level is too high. And we know that that creates inflammation in the body and inflammation is at the root of all disease. So I think we all need to find that thing that brings us joy, that makes us smile, and makes life a little less serious.

    Elizabeth Stein 29:36
    I love that what's bringing you joy right now?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 29:42
    Watching Young Sheldon with my nine year old and I never thought that I would enjoy this show because it's the precursor to Big Bang Theory, which I never really watch. But it's such a good show and it's so light-hearted and it's only 20 minutes long. So it’s like a little treat before bed.

    Elizabeth Stein 30:00
    Love it. So we talked about getting in more produce, I'm curious to hear from you if you had, again, if you don't like kale, don't eat kale. But from a pure nutrition standpoint, what would your top five power foods be?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 30:16
    Oh my gosh, well, I love eggs. Eggs are for anybody who's not vegan, they are just such a great go-to protein source in terms of providing all essential amino acids, also choline for your brain. And there aren't that many foods that are rich in choline, so eggs, and then wild salmon. Omega three, again, is just critical for your brain your eyes, or your heart. It's not February anymore, but we did just have Heart Month and heart disease remains the number one killer for men and women in this country. So I have to talk about what we can do to protect our hearts. Of all the berries, I would say blueberries tend to top my list because they are just so rich in anthocyanins and again, really great for your brain. As we age, brain health becomes more top of mind. And there's such great research on blueberries, strawberries, and blackberries, and in terms of what they can do for our brain health and memory and just cognition. I have two more, don't I? Nuts. I am a fan of peanut butter. I'm also a fan of walnuts and pistachios. All the nuts are great for us. Again, I think variety is important there. I would never tell somebody… I mean, Almond Butter is great. It's super healthy, but I would never only almond butter.

    Elizabeth Stein 32:08
    This is why Nuttzo is such a good product if you've had that nut butter and seeds.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 32:16
    Yes, it's really good. You just have to stir it. But yeah, it's a great product and another women-owned company.

    Elizabeth Stein 32:26
    Yes, she's a good friend of mine.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 32:27
    Yeah, that's awesome. And the last one, I think I'm gonna say extra virgin olive oil because it is so great for fighting inflammation. But it's also one of those things that is so delicious, too. So I love finding those things that are so great for me, but also are amazingly delicious. And so it's not a heavy lift to incorporate them into my diet.

    Elizabeth Stein 32:58
    Love that and love the idea of putting that on one of your boards with the cheese and the baguette.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 33:03
    Yes. It's almost picnic season, Elizabeth.

    Elizabeth Stein 33:07
    I'm ready. So as we're getting into the year, we're still kind of at the beginning of the year. What trends are you seeing for 2024?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 33:18
    Ah, okay, so I do write a piece for every year on the trends that I'm seeing. And so I talked about how caffeine-free is the new sober. So I think people are realizing that that afternoon cup is just destroying their sleep and doing things that are negative for them. So maybe people aren't entirely giving up caffeine. I'm not advocating for that, because actually, coffee has some real benefits. But they are evaluating just like people started looking at how much they were drinking, especially after the pandemic. So I think maybe you only need that cup in the morning or two cups in the morning and then you're having something that decaf in the afternoon. So that's a huge one, I think we're going to see more people looking at their caffeine consumption. Also mushrooms, but not just mushrooms in the way that we've been thinking about them. I know that you have used mushrooms in your products, but also the mushroom roots because that can be used in different ways, it can be used as a jerky with a very meaty texture to it. And different protein sources beyond the pea protein that we've been seeing the last couple of years, but different plants that contain protein and then use those in products. It's called Ruby, and it's grown in water and it's great for the environment. It's a carbon sink. So it's also improving the environment. It's kind of like an algae. Yeah, interesting. But it's like a tiny little green plant.

    Elizabeth Stein 35:20
    Like some pure innovation project is coming.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 35:25
    Yeah. I think also, just the environment itself is a main trend driver. And I think that so many of us are super concerned about the environment. So when we're looking at products, of course, we want them to taste great. Of course, we want it to be good for us. But we also want to know, what is this product doing for the planet? Does it have a positive impact or a negative impact? And because people want to feel good about the food products that they're buying? I think we'll continue to see adaptogens. As long as we have people who are stressed out, we're gonna continue to see. They are here to say. And I think also people finding, finding that balance maybe they tried being vegan for a while, and they determined it was not quite right for them. But they want to keep the principles of eating more fruits and vegetables, eating more whole grains, but then maybe bringing back a little bit of meat and fish and poultry into their diet to just feel better and make sure that they're getting enough iron and protein. I know for a lot of women, that's a big struggle to feel great on a vegan diet. So I think just kind of fine-tuning is a trend as well.

    Elizabeth Stein 36:55
    Those are great, thank you. So as you talk about finding balance and fine-tuning, I'd love to hear a little bit about your typical day and how you find balance and juggle everything. Do you have any rituals in your morning? What does your day of success look like?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 37:13
    Ah, yes, so I do I have become even more ritualized now that I live in the burbs because I can't just run out to a coffee shop. So I have a coffee first thing with collagen, but I don't have the whole coffee. I honestly just take three steps. And then I'm either on the peloton bike or I am doing a strength workout. I love Kelly Gullickson. I don't know what I'm going to do when she goes out on maternity leave.

    Elizabeth Stein 37:49
    Have you gone to a Peloton live class?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 37:51
    No. But I want to.

    Elizabeth Stein 37:54
    I just went two months ago, and I was in New York, you must go. It was incredible.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 37:59
    Which one did you do?

    Elizabeth Stein 38:01
    I did Alex's bike ride. And it was just way beyond my expectations. It was incredible.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 38:11
    Yeah, it's on my bucket list. It is absolutely on my bucket list. Maybe the next time you come to town, I'll try to tag along with you. And so this is all before the kids are even up. So get my workout in. As it gets nicer, I'll try to start running more because I think that that's it's great to get outside and move on. Also, you're getting the vitamin D benefit, which is so important for immunity and mood and everything. And then seven o'clock, wake everybody up, get everybody out the door, make breakfast. And usually, my breakfast is after everybody is sort of out the door. When I think it's important to kind of sit down and take that 10 to 15 minutes, if I can have my breakfast outside, I do that because it just feels good. Like taking that many treats. And then it's writing, recipe development. There's all the email that comes with being your business owner as you know and also doing a little bit of blogging for the book every day. So carving that up. I look at things and like 15-minute increments because I like to be efficient. And so even when there's only 15 minutes, there's 15 minutes to do something.

    Elizabeth Stein 39:48
    Like you're carving up your 15-minute little blocks like your trays, like little bits of time in.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 39:56
    Yeah, exactly. So and I do I'm always pitching my editors at So maybe I'll use that 15 minutes to put a pitch together or create a list of reels that I'm going to make this month because I have to keep making the content. Yeah, but I think also it's important again to get that little bit of fun in there. So I also I'm in a book club. And right now we're reading Day by Michael Cunningham, which is his latest book. And so I'll carve out maybe 20 minutes in the late afternoon to do some reading. And I find that that's very calming, it's kind of a nice thing to do for yourself. Sometimes, I will use that reading time in the bath, which is a really fun thing to do. A bath during the day when other people are working is a very nice, little sneaky treat thing to do. I love that.

    Elizabeth Stein 40:54
    I love that. All right, we're gonna move on to some rapid-fire Q&A. Three things that you're currently loving. Could be a product, show anything.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 41:12
    Okay. Love the summer Friday’s Lip Butter. Which of course my teenager turned me on to. Loving that. Loving the Real Real because I'm now consigning my stuff from 10 years ago and clearing out my closet but then finding new things to wear without impacting the environment. So I feel great about that. And oh my gosh, linen sheets. Serena and Lily linen sheets because they just feel good.

    Elizabeth Stein 41:51
    Love it. Favorite words to live by?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 41:57
    The Eleanor Roosevelt quote about doing something every day that scares you.

    Elizabeth Stein 42:04
    I love that. So good. A firm believer in it. Three favorite pantry staples.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 42:12
    Chia seeds, Purely Elizabeth granola, and I'm gonna say rolled oats.

    Elizabeth Stein 42:21
    What is your number one non-negotiable to thrive on your wellness journey?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 42:27
    Movement? For me it's movement.

    Elizabeth Stein 42:31
    Love it. Getting it in daily.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 42:35
    Getting it in daily. Yes. And I will tell you about the podcast marketplace. The marketplace, either the morning report or the evening report because staying abreast of what's happening in the economy is just vital. It's as vital as the regular news.

    Elizabeth Stein 42:56
    Great one. All right, Frances. Well, in closing, where can everybody find you and grab your book as well?

    Frances Largeman-Roth 43:03
    Okay, well, they can grab Everyday Snack Tray on Amazon. They can come to check out my website, which is Or they can follow me on Instagram @franceslrothrd.

    Elizabeth Stein 43:18
    Amazing. Frances, thank you so much for being here. It was so great to connect.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 43:23
    Thank you, Elizabeth. This has been a real treat. And I hope to meet you in person someday.

    Elizabeth Stein 43:28
    Yes, we're going to Peloton.

    Frances Largeman-Roth 43:30
    Yes, let's do it.

    Elizabeth Stein 43:36
    Thanks so much for joining me on Live Purely with Elizabeth. I hope you feel inspired to thrive on your wellness journey. If you enjoyed today's episode, don't forget to rate, subscribe, and review. You can follow us on Instagram @purely_elizabeth to catch up on all the latest. See you next Wednesday on the podcast.

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